Refusing Promotion to Captain

The CPOs have food?!?!?!?

Yes! LAX often has made-to-order breakfasteses.

Lemme see what they had yesterday…. Oh, it was “Randy’s Donut Day”:

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Yes, but often times those guys have absolutely horrible sleep strategies. The ones that drink harder than I did in my 20s and spend a two week trip with FOMO and constant sleep deprivation.

I try to stay on a US sleep schedule on international trips, and have been doing it for a couple years now. Pretty similar to what Derg does, and it works well. I come back to the US with basically no jet lag.

The domestic hub turns at FedEx are a different animal, and I will gladly downgrade if I end up doing that stuff routinely. I’m not good at swapping my circadian like that, and I think it absolutely takes time off your life.

For the month of July I was on red eye reserve at "can't hack it airlines LLC". I did everything possible to be well rested and I managed my sleep as best as I could. I would go to bed at 2am-3am on night one wake up at 7am not have coffee, try and do something other than space out and stare off into the distance until Noon. Then sleep until 5pm ideally. Of course the red eye turns had us landing in Seattle at 8am and the Hawaii red eye returns are even later. So that kind of forces a circadian flip. So do the red eye short backs: for example red eye to PIT. Walk to the airport hotel and sleep for as long as possible and show at the airplane at 5pm. Fly back to SEA. You've flipped your sleep schedule again...

For the month of July I was barely about to ride my bike. I had to force it constantly to get outside and feel human and it never felt good. I had one really bad bike crash and I'm lucky I wasn't badly hurt. I lost my wallet. I felt like I was constantly getting a mild cold that would never get any worse than the sniffles but was just basically awful. I had a lot of time at home but I wasn't fully functional the entire time.
 
Yes! LAX often has made-to-order breakfasteses.

Lemme see what they had yesterday…. Oh, it was “Randy’s Donut Day”:

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But how do you not get fat then?
Yes, but often times those guys have absolutely horrible sleep strategies. The ones that drink harder than I did in my 20s and spend a two week trip with FOMO and constant sleep deprivation.
What about the ones who bid 8:30 block dailies, pick up like fiends, try to squeeze in family stuff, and somehow find napping to be unnecessary? I feel like you can only do that for so long. Maybe I’m wrong.
 
But how do you not get fat then?

What about the ones who bid 8:30 block dailies, pick up like fiends, try to squeeze in family stuff, and somehow find napping to be unnecessary? I feel like you can only do that for so long. Maybe I’m wrong.

If you’re already fat, there’s no fear of getting fat! ;)
 
For the month of July I was on red eye reserve at "can't hack it airlines LLC". I did everything possible to be well rested and I managed my sleep as best as I could. I would go to bed at 2am-3am on night one wake up at 7am not have coffee, try and do something other than space out and stare off into the distance until Noon. Then sleep until 5pm ideally. Of course the red eye turns had us landing in Seattle at 8am and the Hawaii red eye returns are even later. So that kind of forces a circadian flip. So do the red eye short backs: for example red eye to PIT. Walk to the airport hotel and sleep for as long as possible and show at the airplane at 5pm. Fly back to SEA. You've flipped your sleep schedule again...

For the month of July I was barely about to ride my bike. I had to force it constantly to get outside and feel human and it never felt good. I had one really bad bike crash and I'm lucky I wasn't badly hurt. I lost my wallet. I felt like I was constantly getting a mild cold that would never get any worse than the sniffles but was just basically awful. I had a lot of time at home but I wasn't fully functional the entire time.
Summoning @ASpilot2be to add his experience as a junior left-seater in a west coast base.

This right here is why senior FOs are bypassing. Kirby says they’ve addressed it with the AIP and it won’t be an issue, but if the junior flying is reserve red eye turns, they haven’t addressed it at all.
 
Summoning @ASpilot2be to add his experience as a junior left-seater in a west coast base.

This right here is why senior FOs are bypassing. Kirby says they’ve addressed it with the AIP and it won’t be an issue, but if the junior flying is reserve red eye turns, they haven’t addressed it at all.

Is there a quote out there from Kirby that says “pilots are the future and whoever is able to attract and retain pilots will win”.

Or something along those lines??


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Is there a quote out there from Kirby that says “pilots are the future and whoever is able to attract and retain pilots will win”.

Or something along those lines??


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No clue. But then Delta showed up to Oshkosh with a $300k palace and United didn’t have anything.

Or so I heard from a friend who flies for United and was there. I wasn’t.
 
If you’re already fat, there’s no fear of getting fat! ;)
Yeah! But there's still the fear and reality of dying early, as well as the physical and cognitive lassitude that typically comes when one's eminence precedes one's eminence.

If the engine is already running, don't turn the key again. You'll break things.
 
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Yeah! But there's still the fear and reality of dying early, as well as the physical and cognitive lassitude that typically comes when one's eminence precedes one's eminence.

If the engine is already running, don't turn the key again. You'll break things.
I mean, I kinda' get it. Eggs were bad for one in my lifetime; now they're OK. Red wine was good for one decades ago and a glass a day was touted by medical professionals, now it is firmly discouraged. Grandma cooked with Crisco and ate bacon/eggs daily for breakfast, enjoyed sipping a daily glass of homemade "Lebens Elixir." Grandpa lived to 85, she to 96 and in their own home, actively.

My dad died at 68. Aspiration pneumonia as a complication of Ahlzimer's. He quit smoking and drinking fifteen years or so before the disease became evident, was an avid tennis player and fairly fit, working outdoors a lot for the last decade of his life. Mom was a Newport chain smoker, 3 to 4 packs a day, lighting the next before the first stub burned out, and enjoyed a good drink too, and she made it to 95🤷‍♂️

In another life, long ago, I buried a lot of people as a pastor and FD chaplain: accidents, illness, misfortune, work choice, suicide, and as a first responder I did my best to roll back eternity for some of them before it was too late. There were babies and children, young folks and old, fat ones and thin, and when their time was up it didn't matter a damn their age, or what they ate, or how many hours they spent at the gym. They got their hundred percent, whether it came early or late.

I've had a good run, despite a set-back or two, and made it -so far - to months from 70. I helped raise two boys who are good men. Have seven grandchildren I don't know as well as I should. Had a lovely wife for 37 years (divorced now) and some of the best friends one might imagine. That's all tempered a bit by some of the ghosts who still visit but I made it this far without regret. I wonder if that's not the point, for me at least, as the end is closer than the beginning; but that's my perspective only and not necessary for anyone else to embrace.

Drink the wine or have the Martini. Enjoy the eggs or coffee. Run, or don't.

Make the choices which bring value and joy (intelligently, like buckle your seat belt and have a will and ... whatever), but meet your time on the terms which matter to you.

Anyway g'night and pleasant dreams. Be safe as you share this time with those you love.
 
Yeah! But there's still the fear and reality of dying early, as well as the physical and cognitive lassitude that typically comes when one's eminence precedes one's eminence.

If the engine is already running, don't turn the key again. You'll break things.
More reason we should strive to not push for 67.
 
Yeah! But there's still the fear and reality of dying early, as well as the physical and cognitive lassitude that typically comes when one's eminence precedes one's eminence.

If the engine is already running, don't turn the key again. You'll break things.

No one neck deep in a second serving of buffalo wings at a food truck after a night of debauchery is thinking about the afterworld.

I’ve been there, trust me. :)
 
No one neck deep in a second serving of buffalo wings at a food truck after a night of debauchery is thinking about the afterworld.

I’ve been there, trust me. :)
Not at the moment of deliciousness, certainly, but them damned thoughts creep in later with just pups to hold and porn to watch after the Food Network - sometimes, as time goes by.
 
Dude, if you're going to be my ever-present stalker, at least get my seniority correct! If I'm at year 26 and a few FO's were senior to me, that would be 25+x.

Seriously, international wide body FO is the "L/D Max" of career positions. The most money for the most days off with the least amount of responsibility. Plus they generally out-earn most captains, including me.

Giving @DPApilot the least amount of responsibility seems like it benefits everyone.
 
For the month of July I was on red eye reserve at "can't hack it airlines LLC". I did everything possible to be well rested and I managed my sleep as best as I could. I would go to bed at 2am-3am on night one wake up at 7am not have coffee, try and do something other than space out and stare off into the distance until Noon. Then sleep until 5pm ideally. Of course the red eye turns had us landing in Seattle at 8am and the Hawaii red eye returns are even later. So that kind of forces a circadian flip. So do the red eye short backs: for example red eye to PIT. Walk to the airport hotel and sleep for as long as possible and show at the airplane at 5pm. Fly back to SEA. You've flipped your sleep schedule again...

For the month of July I was barely about to ride my bike. I had to force it constantly to get outside and feel human and it never felt good. I had one really bad bike crash and I'm lucky I wasn't badly hurt. I lost my wallet. I felt like I was constantly getting a mild cold that would never get any worse than the sniffles but was just basically awful. I had a lot of time at home but I wasn't fully functional the entire time.
Smart choices but hard as hell to do with constant change. I went from a well-managed four years of straight midnight shifts to an ungodly rotating schedule at 911: 10 days of midnight reporting (12midnight to 8am), one day off; 10 days of second shift reporting 4pm to midnight), two days off; 10 days of a "normal" shift (8am-4pm), three days off; rinse and repeat. While each shift had a benefit, there was just no way to adjust one's circadian rhythm to that. And being short-staffed, there was the regular chance that one could get forced to fill an open following shift (and that 16 hours plus the commute was hell).

I think it was our second contract negotiation where we finally went to "owning" a constant shift and, holy cow!, what a beautiful change. Senior staff picked first and you'd think the most junior always got screwed, but it actually worked out pretty well. There were people, even senior, who preferred the 4-12s, and two even the midnights (no bosses, much lower call volume). I was number 3 on the list when the place opened and went straight for the day-shift. There was still the danger of an occasional force but it was far more manageable in terms of lifestyle and overall health.

A number of people traded days/shifts to get additional time-off without using PTO but I rarely did, with the exception of major holidays after the wife left. I'd generally trade to take the "big" ones (T-giving and Christmas especially) so the younger crew with families could be home with them; the dogs didn't care as long as I came back each time after leaving. I love to cook so we always made a big holiday meal on those days to share together at the consoles, and often the spouse/kids of the still-married guys would join us for an hour or so - a fond memory.
 
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