About that time T-38s or T-1s?

[Superfly7XAF]

About to track and figured at this point I'd have a better idea of which way to go but enjoyed instruments/nav and form about the same. The only fighter I'm interested in is the A-10, otherwise I'd probably want to fly a heavy. Would hate to look back and wonder "what if" by going T-1s but is it worth going -38s (and risk being FAIP'd) if your not really die hard about fighters?

 

[MikeD]

The only fighter I'm interested in is the A-10,

Choke yourself for calling an attack plane a fighter.

Seriously though, each side has it's ups and downs. Fighters.....fun but lots of work. Anticipate long days in a squadron and a ton of working harder, not smarter.

Heavies appear to be the opposite, but our heavy guys on the board here can speak far better to that than me.

Then, theres FAIP.

 

[bunk22]

Go T-38's, that's what flying is all about!

 

[traumachicken]

whats FAIP is you dont mind me asking.

 

[olkev]

whats FAIP is you dont mind me asking.

I think First Assignment Instructor Pilot

 

[CK]

This might a dumb question, but I've only ever heard of FAIP's being dropped out of 38's. Do they pull FAIP's out of T-1's to instruct in the T-1?

Alex.

 

[bunk22]

whats FAIP is you dont mind me asking.

In the Navy we call them SERGRADS and of course, not sure what it means lol. Same thing though, a student pilot gets winged, goes through the instructor syllabus and becomes an IP.

 

[Hacker15e]

Do they pull FAIP's out of T-1's to instruct in the T-1?

Yes.

 

[Hacker15e]

About to track and figured at this point I'd have a better idea of which way to go but enjoyed instruments/nav and form about the same. The only fighter I'm interested in is the A-10, otherwise I'd probably want to fly a heavy. Would hate to look back and wonder "what if" by going T-1s but is it worth going -38s (and risk being FAIP'd) if your not really die hard about fighters?

Remember that you can get assigned to all airframes out of the T-38 track, so going that way gives you the most options later on down the road.

 

[olkev]

In the Navy we call them SERGRADS and of course, not sure what it means lol. Same thing though, a student pilot gets winged, goes through the instructor syllabus and becomes an IP.

What does SERGRAD stand for?

 

[Springer]

, otherwise I'd probably want to fly a heavy....but is it worth going -38s (and risk being FAIP'd) if your not really die hard about fighters?

You won the lottery by getting an AF pilot slot. Who goes to UPT to fly heavies? You can do that later with the airlines. The T-38 is one of the greatest planes ever. If you can track it, go fly it. Btw, Gen Mark Welsh was a former Tweet FAIP...look where he ended up.

 

[bunk22]

What does SERGRAD stand for?

I don't care what it stands for, all I know is they do a good job in the squadrons as IP's.

 

[Getzen2]

You won the lottery by getting an AF pilot slot. Who goes to UPT to fly heavies? You can do that later with the airlines. The T-38 is one of the greatest planes ever. If you can track it, go fly it. Btw, Gen Mark Welsh was a former Tweet FAIP...look where he ended up.

I did. Tell me which airline does low level air drop on night vision and how to get their application. Also, if a tanker and a fighter pilot walk into the club at the same time, who's gonna buy the first round? There is no bad assignment/track, each has it's pros and cons.

 

[///AMG]

SERGRAD = Selectively Retained Graduate in Navy parlance. From what I've heard from my AF friends, the selection process is maybe a little different between the services, but they are basically the same thing. SERGRAD is only like a year stint, with an IUT syllabus thrown in for a few months of that, so I don't think it is quite the good deal of many hours that it used to be. However, it always seemed like they were able to rack up a lot of FAM/instrument weekend cross countries that the more senior IP's didn't want.....which could be a good deal

 

[MikeD]

You won the lottery by getting an AF pilot slot. Who goes to UPT to fly heavies? You can do that later with the airlines. The T-38 is one of the greatest planes ever. If you can track it, go fly it. Btw, Gen Mark Welsh was a former Tweet FAIP...look where he ended up.

Gen Mosely was a Tweet FAIP at Webb. He also ended up in the top post.

 

[MikeD]

About to track and figured at this point I'd have a better idea of which way to go but enjoyed instruments/nav and form about the same. The only fighter I'm interested in is the A-10, otherwise I'd probably want to fly a heavy. Would hate to look back and wonder "what if" by going T-1s but is it worth going -38s (and risk being FAIP'd) if your not really die hard about fighters?

And btw......why only T-1 or T-38? There are UH-1s too......

 

[bunk22]

SERGRAD = Selectively Retained Graduate in Navy parlance. From what I've heard from my AF friends, the selection process is maybe a little different between the services, but they are basically the same thing. SERGRAD is only like a year stint, with an IUT syllabus thrown in for a few months of that, so I don't think it is quite the good deal of many hours that it used to be. However, it always seemed like they were able to rack up a lot of FAM/instrument weekend cross countries that the more senior IP's didn't want.....which could be a good deal

In K-ville, I believe the SERGRAD's are allowed to get quals in weps, tacform, single plane ONAV's, etc. NO ACM but they can do more than phase I. Phase I instruction gets old after a week lol

 

[///AMG]

In K-ville, I believe the SERGRAD's are allowed to get quals in weps, tacform, single plane ONAV's, etc. NO ACM but they can do more than phase I. Phase I instruction gets old after a week lol

I think the quals were open in Meridian as well, though I really only ever heard of one getting tacform qual'd, and that was at the very end of his "tour". Yeah, I could imagine phase I would be like beating your head against a wall, combined with a few moments of sheer terror for good measure

 

[Superfly7XAF]

And btw......why only T-1 or T-38? There are UH-1s too......

I considered helos, they have a great mission, but definitely want to go fixed wing. Like a buddy of mine used to say, "never trust an airplane who's wings travel faster than it's fuselage."

 

[MikeD]

I considered helos, they have a great mission, but definitely want to go fixed wing. Like a buddy of mine used to say, "never trust an airplane who's wings travel faster than it's fuselage."

.....don't know what you're missing! The helo mission is great, and the training is pretty laid back at Rucker and beyond. Although Kirtland is kind of a cluster, but then again so are most of the B-courses.

Still, put down what you like. And enjoy it. In fact, go T-38.....then at assignment drop, request UH-1.